But not many people believed it, most particularly because of the symmetry. And secondly it was completely symmetrical, so everything fell in towards the centre and so since there was nothing to stop it you got this singular point in the middle and actually a model which looks like a black hole. But the thing is they had first of all dust, and dust by definition is something with no pressure, so there’s nothing to stop it. Well it was a paper in 1939 by Oppenheimer and Snyder with a theoretical model of a collapsed … of a dust cloud, and it was more or less the kind of situation we would now refer to as the collapse of a black hole. Well it was, I mean, what I did was basically in 1964, so we’re going way back, in which … it was just a little while after the quasars had been observed and people had found this very puzzling. No, I had a call from Petrona, who received a message from the Swedish Academy and she wasn’t sure what it was about, but I think she guessed what it was about, and she wasn’t allowed to speak to them, and they tried to contact me and then their phone went dead and then I hung up and then finally they called me back again to tell me about it.ĪS: The news made it to you in the end, so …ĪS: It’s yet again a nice demonstration of the interplay between theoretical and experimental physics, your discovery. RP: All a bit peculiar – I’m not sure I want to go into it all. RP: Thank you so much, it’s much appreciated. Interview transcriptĪdam Smith: Hello, this is Adam Smith speaking.ĪS: Many, many congratulations on the award of the Nobel Prize. In the second half of the conversation he goes on to explain some of his latest work, describing how black holes are the basis for the second law of thermodynamics, and suggesting that signatures of black holes from a previous universe might be faintly apparent in the cosmic microwave background radiation. In this phone interview, recorded just after the announcement of the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics, Roger Penrose recounts the story of how a particular crossroads held the key to his seminal 1965 paper on the theoretical basis of black holes. The interviewer is Adam Smith, Chief Scientific Officer of Nobel Media. Telephone interview with Roger Penrose following the announcement of the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics on 6 October 2020. “I had this strange feeling of elation and I couldn’t quite work out why I was feeling like that” ![]() In this conversation, conducted in February 2021, Penrose also shares some stories from his childhood and how he eventually ended up in the field of physics. Hear Roger Penrose speak about ideas, creativity and what is so special about blackboards. We spoke to him about growing up, how his passion for maths developed and why he finds it so surreal to be a Nobel Laureate. met physicist Roger Penrose on 4 March 2021. Photo: Fergus Kennedy “I used to think Nobel Laureates were other people” Roger Penrose showing his Nobel Prize medal. ![]() ![]() Share via Email: Roger Penrose – Interview Share this content via Email.Share on LinkedIn: Roger Penrose – Interview Share this content on LinkedIn.Tweet: Roger Penrose – Interview Share this content on Twitter.Share on Facebook: Roger Penrose – Interview Share this content on Facebook.
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